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原帖由 Mr.Business 于 1-11-2007 10:24 PM 发表
帐目出问题,管理不良,进了PN17。。。APLI的坏消息真是够多了!却不见管理层出来说说话!
希望这不是有心人想要低价收购APLI而出的阴谋!!!不然就太可怕了。。。。
XXXXX
看回以下这旧新闻,讽刺讽 ...
生意兄,千萬別讓這句話在你腦中生根,那是非常可怕的。
有問題,就是有問題。
別去想它是否有陰謀。
除非你想和它打太極。 |
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发表于 2-11-2007 01:24 AM
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回复 #30 老散一名 的帖子
哈,是的,你是对的。
我只是讲讲而已。。。阴谋论呀,阴谋论。。。 |
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发表于 2-11-2007 08:56 AM
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发表于 2-11-2007 08:59 AM
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原帖由 8years 于 2-11-2007 08:56 AM 发表
是不值得买,不是假账。。。。。
真真假假誰人知,如果沒人告狀,我想沒人會知這是假債。 |
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发表于 2-11-2007 09:39 AM
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它的命运目前是模糊的 |
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发表于 2-11-2007 10:26 AM
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Supermax不妙。。。
RAM Ratings reaffirms Supermax’s bonds; outlook revised from stable to negative
20 July 2007
RAM Ratings has reaffirmed the A2 rating of Supermax Corporation Berhad’s (“Supermax” or “the Group”) RM120 million Fixed-Rate Serial Bonds (“the Bonds”). However, the outlook on the rating has been revised from stable to negative, premised on RAM Ratings’ concerns about Supermax’s rising debt level and thin operating cashflow in the last 2 years. As at end-FYE 31 December 2006 (“FY Dec 2006”), Supermax’s debt load of RM215.44 million had already exceeded our expected maximum of RM150 million during the initial rating exercise. The heavier debt burden had been largely due to the Group’s continuous capital expansion and heftier-than-expected working-capital requirements due to more costly latex and slow collections from its overseas trading arms. More importantly, the increased debt burden has not been matched by a commensurate growth in the Group’s net operating cashflow.
By end-FY Dec 2007, Supermax’s debt level is expected to elevate to RM265 million, as the Group intends to borrow further to partially fund its ongoing expansion. Nonetheless, the management has intimated that the additional debt will be supported by an anticipated increase in Supermax’s cash reserves to beyond RM100 million by end-FY Dec 2007; the Group expects better collection efforts vis-à-vis its associates (as demonstrated by its healthier financials in 1Q FY Dec 2007). Therefore, while the additional debt is expected to push the Group’s gearing ratio up to 0.92 times, the management has represented that Supermax’s net gearing ratio will remain relatively manageable at around 0.55 times as at end-FY Dec 2007, bolstered by the envisaged increase in its cash reserves. Given the expectation of a stronger operating cashflow in FY Dec 2007, the management is also optimistic that Supermax’s operating cashflow debt coverage (“OCFDC”) will revert to the earlier projected level of around 0.2 times, compared to a mere 0.04 times as at end-FY Dec 2006.
RAM Ratings has consistently highlighted that Supermax has little flexibility to continue relying on debt to finance its expansion programme, without affecting its credit rating. Given that its overall debt load has continued to exceed our expectations, we highlight that it is imperative for Supermax to demonstrate a substantially better operating cashflow in FY Dec 2007 to avoid even more deterioration in its credit-protection measures. Should Supermax’s net gearing and OCFDC ratios still fall short of RAM Ratings’ expectations by end-FY Dec 2007, there will be downward pressure on its credit rating. Conversely, the rating outlook may be revised to stable if Supermax is able to demonstrate significant and sustained improvement in its financial performance over the next 1-2 fiscal years.
On a separate note, Tillotson Corporation (“Tillotson”), which has patented its nitrile gloves, filed a complaint on 30 May 2007 against 30 rubber-glove manufacturers from the US, Malaysia (including Supermax), Indonesia and China over alleged infringement of its patent. Tillotson is also demanding a royalty fee of USD2.00 per carton of 1,000 nitrile gloves. According to the management, Tillotson’s actions will have minimal impact on Supermax as the Group’s distribution arm in the US will factor the requested royalty fee into its selling prices. Following this, Supermax expects to have to pay around RM1 million of royalties in FY Dec 2008; the management is confident that this will eventually be passed on to its customers. Meanwhile, for Supermax’s associate, Seal Polymer Industries Berhad (“Seal Polymer”) has some of its major customers agreeing to bear the royalty fee. This would also alleviate some of Seal Polymer’s burden of having to bear the additional cost. |
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发表于 2-11-2007 01:55 PM
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发表于 2-11-2007 10:31 PM
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找了很久,终于找到一则APLI进PN17的新闻。
请问各位对会计有认识的网友,可以去看看第4楼吗?我认为Supermax/APLI做假帐的可能性非常大,你们觉得呢?
第4楼。
http://chinese4.cari.com.my/myforum/viewthread.php?tid=1022763&page=1#pid34929922
净亏损2109万 亚太工业列PN17 2007/11/02 10:10:40
●南洋商报
(吉隆坡1日讯)受到截至2007年6月30日财政年已审核净亏损高达2千109万令吉的影响,导致亚太工业(APLI,5479,主板工业)今日被列入PN17股的行列,而其股价今天也面对卖压,股价全天滑落7仙。
亚太工业昨天的文告表示,它未审核和已审核净亏损的差额达到1千657万令吉,使到它的净亏损由未审核的451万令吉,扩大至2千109万令吉。
这使到马交易所今天发表文告表示,亚太工业已经列入为PN17公司。
亚太控股今日成交量面对庞大的卖,成交量达到33千856万1千股,成为全天最热门股。
闭市时,亚太工业报31仙,下滑7仙,全日最高点36仙,最低点31仙。
根据亚太工业的指出,它的净亏损主要原因来自其越南工厂悬而未决的工程所导致。
由于计划用来建立工厂的土地大部分仍未开发,需持续缴纳租金,加上其买进的机器与设备未归类为“固定资产”,并未记上折旧费用。
除此之外,在经审核后,由于一些已损坏的成型机器被验证无法再度出售,因此该公司也决定进行注销。 |
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发表于 2-11-2007 10:40 PM
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APLI今天的交易量达到33106600股,最高价是RM0.29,最低价是 RM0.25,闭市RM0.26。APLI昨天的闭市价是RM0.31。
Supermax今天的交易量达到187200股,最高价是RM2.24,最低价是 RM2.19,闭市RM2.23。Supermax昨天的闭市价是RM2.26。
APLI/Supermax的管理层还是没有发表意见或澄清。。。再看回商海的那篇文章, 真是讽刺呀。。。
PS: 我相信RAM很快就会降低Supermax的RM120 million债券的A2评级。。。有Supermax的网友或者可以考虑乘高卖出Supermax。
[ 本帖最后由 Mr.Business 于 2-11-2007 10:45 PM 编辑 ] |
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发表于 2-11-2007 10:58 PM
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发表于 2-11-2007 11:02 PM
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最新发现。
我发现当APLI于26/05/2006宣布FY2006Q3的业绩是,APLI的Equity已经只有RM85065K,少过Share Capital RM347612K的25%。APLI在当时已经应该进入PN17,为何到现在才宣布呢?我会再查查清楚,如果属实我会向Securities Commission投诉,所以呢,有APLI/Supermax的网友或者可以考虑卖出APLI/Supermax。
APLI的FY2006Q3的业绩。 |
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发表于 3-11-2007 01:18 AM
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回复 #46 Mr.Business 的帖子
APLI的短期债务共RM30 million,而长期债务共RM50 million,手上现金有RM168K。。。不知道Supermax要如何救APLI。我想到的方法是:
1. 缩阳。Share Capital RM347612K减少到剩下的RM46435K,也就是8变一。
2. 发新股。main board公司的股本至少要RM60 million, 所以发出13565000新股, 得到资金RM13.565 million。
就算PN17的问题可以解决,那庞大的债务要如何解决呢?要如何去找RM30 million来还一年内到期的短期债务?APLI还要想继续发展越南的工厂,根本是做梦吧了。。。
Supermax能不能帮忙APLI呢?截止30/06/2007, Supermax的Equity是RM269542K,短期债务共RM75633K,而长期债务共RM149874K,D/E是0.84。另外Supermax的手上现金共有RM51189K。看来Supermax也没多大能力能帮助APLI。。。
PS: 看来不用TopGlove动手,APLI/Supermax很快就会被自己干掉了。。。
[ 本帖最后由 Mr.Business 于 3-11-2007 02:04 AM 编辑 ] |
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发表于 3-11-2007 01:24 AM
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请问business 老大
那么是不是可以说“马上卖出这两个counter ” ???
我最近把apli列入我的monitoring list , 因为大跌, 看看有没有机会。。。
是不是结论 : 不要碰? |
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