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1989.4.15-希尔斯堡惨案 25周年 追查真凶 还我公道!

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 楼主| 发表于 21-10-2011 04:17 PM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 25-10-2011 09:26 AM | 显示全部楼层
利物浦球迷用歌声唤起公正 希尔斯堡惨案真相何时揭开

        希尔斯堡惨案的余波至今未消,近日要求政府公布当时调查所有文件的运动达到高潮。上周中,议会就公布希尔斯堡惨案相关文件进行各党派辩论,各种舆论导向极为有利红军球迷22年来“揭露真相”的决心;而在上周六和诺维奇的联赛中,整个KOP看台赛前摆出了JFT96(Justice For the 96)的标语,全场高唱JFT96长达1分钟的时间,整个仪式通过转播引起了全球的关注。

  惨案发生已经22年,但除了《泰勒报告》提供部分希尔斯堡的调查定性外,当时就这次事件直接的文件一直未被公开。究竟当时谢菲尔德警方在此时中承担多大的责任,红军“无票”、“醉酒”的球迷是否是灾难的直接导火索,在英格兰主流媒体中一直没有公正的评价。尤其是《太阳报》在灾难发生后刊出的污蔑利物浦(微博)球迷在死尸身上偷东西、随便撒尿等的报道,引起了非常强烈的舆论后果,迄今为止默西赛德郡人依然要求当时的体育主编麦肯济做出公开道歉,却一直未果。

  议会辩论结果是成立跨体育、传媒和文化三界的独立委员会,由这次促成议会辩论的利物浦当地议员担任主席。首相大卫·卡梅隆已经在随后公开表示

  “为政府22年未公布希尔斯堡惨案文件表示遗憾”,是政府最接近“道歉”的一次表态。整个事件的发展对红军球迷极为有利,封锁的真相,或许将在22年后面世。
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发表于 11-11-2011 10:05 AM | 显示全部楼层
默多克就误报希堡惨案道歉 议员要求太阳报停刊

在窃听案听证会上,新闻国际集团执行主席詹姆斯-默多克就《太阳报》错误报道1989年的希尔斯堡惨案诚恳道歉,议员要求《太阳报》停刊。

22年前的希尔斯堡惨案发生后,英国《太阳报》曾草率为这一事故的原因下结论,称利物浦球迷应该为此负责。日前,新闻国际集团执行主席詹姆斯-默多克就《太阳报》当年的不实报道诚恳道歉。

                               默多克就错误报道希堡惨案道歉

1989年4月15日,在英格兰谢菲尔德的希尔斯堡球场举行利物浦和诺丁汉森林的足总杯半决赛。比赛开始后仍有大批利物浦球迷想要进入球场,警方随后打开大门,蜂拥而入的球迷们不幸发生踩踏事故,并导致看台坍塌。事故最终导致96人死亡200多人受伤。

负责调查事故的法官彼得-泰勒曾公布了一份调查报告,指出维持秩序的南约克郡警方、球场拥有者谢菲尔德星期三俱乐部、谢菲尔德市政府、英足总等各方都存在管理失误的问题。不过,事故发生后的第二天,《太阳报》就以“真相”为题发布报道,称这次事故是利物浦足球流氓闹事引起的。

《太阳报》的报道引发了受害者及利物浦球迷的公愤,从此,KOP将《太阳报》视为天敌。时隔22年半,本周四,詹姆斯-默多克再度就窃听丑闻接受英国议会质询。其间,默多克郑重为太阳报当年的错误报道致歉。

默多克说,“我希望就太阳报当年的错误报道正式道歉,我们那样做错了。22年前我还非常年轻,我没有卷入这一事件的报道,不过我一直都在关注此事。我很清楚,我们的报道给受害者造成了巨大的伤害,我们一直非常抱歉,我本人也是如此。”

利物浦沃尔顿地区的议员史蒂夫-罗瑟拉姆指出,《太阳报》毫不顾忌后果就草率做出报道,体现出新闻国际集团是“不可触及的”,默多克否认了这一说法,强调新闻国际集团的每一个人都受到法律的约束。

罗瑟拉姆议员还向默多克施压,要求他做出《太阳报》停刊的承诺,就像关停《世界新闻报》一样。不过,默多克拒绝做出这样的承诺。
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 楼主| 发表于 11-11-2011 11:34 AM | 显示全部楼层
看来真的有曙光了
连太阳报都道歉了
不过要他们登报纸道歉:@
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发表于 11-11-2011 01:28 PM | 显示全部楼层
看到这里的报道才知道怎么一回事,我真的还以为是红军迷流氓闹事所以才有这样的悲剧。
终于水落石出,太阳报停刊就是最好的道歉方式了。
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 楼主| 发表于 13-4-2012 05:09 PM | 显示全部楼层
http://www.3news.co.nz/VIDEO-Dal ... 250236/Default.aspx

从以上新闻摘录:


Saturday's match will be played on the eve of the 23rd anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster, in which 96 Liverpool fans lost their lives, and there will be a minute's silence before kick-off.
星期六将会是希堡惨案的第23周年前夕,而有96位利物浦粉丝不幸逝世,该场比赛开始前将会有1分钟的默哀。

"(The anniversary of) Hillsborough's always an emotive.... time for anybody that's connected with Liverpool football club. The minute's silence at Wembley, it's a wee (little) bit ironic that it's Liverpool/Everton again because that was the final that year (1989).
"希堡周年祭总是那么的令人神伤。。这一日也是让所有人和利物浦紧紧相连。星期6温布利将会有一分钟的默哀,利物浦和埃弗顿的对决让我觉得有点讽刺因为当年的决赛也是这两只对手。

So, it's going to be very emotive for everybody. Evertonians were effected by Hillsborough, as well as Liverpool fans. Family members or relatives that never came home.
所以这将会是个煽情的夜晚。埃弗顿球迷在希堡惨案里承受的并不比利物浦球迷来的少。他们同样也有从此回不来的家人。

So, it will be poignant, and I'm sure both (sets of) fans will grace the one minute's silence with the dignity that they've shown throughout since 1989. Since it happened, I think the support that the Liverpool people have had from the Evertonians and vice versa, for the Hillsborough cases and families, has been magnificent.
因此这一切会非常感动,我相信双方的球迷在这一分钟里展现出他们自1989年以来的尊严。 自那事件后,双方球迷在希堡惨案上互相给与鼓励与支持,这是非常给力的。

They're a real credit to themselves and a real credit to the city, the way that they've handled themselves in a dignified manner. So I'm sure that will continue,” says Dalglish.
他们在处理这件事上展现了人性的光辉,他们应该为自己感到骄傲同时他们也是整座城市的骄傲。我也相信这一切将会继续延续下去。"国王回应道。
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 楼主| 发表于 13-4-2012 05:17 PM | 显示全部楼层
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17382896
太长了
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Hillsborough: Thatcher told 'drunk fans' caused disaster

By Jon Manel BBC Radio 4




Former PM Margaret Thatcher was told a senior Merseyside police officer blamed "drunken Liverpool fans" for causing the Hillsborough disaster, confidential government documents have revealed.

An official inquiry found the main cause of the tragedy was a failure in crowd control by South Yorkshire Police.

Ninety-six football fans died as a result of a crush on overcrowded terraces at an FA Cup Semi Final in April 1989.

The BBC has seen secret papers about Britain's worst sporting tragedy.

Letters to and from 10 Downing Street and cabinet minutes that show what Mrs, now Lady, Thatcher was discussing and being told behind the scenes have been made public for the first time by BBC Radio 4's The World at One.

For years, the families of those who died have been calling for the release of secret government and police papers relating to the disaster.

The government has agreed that this will happen.

The Hillsborough Independent Panel, set up in 2009, is reviewing hundreds of documents but they are not expected to be made available to the families of those who died or to the wider public until later this year.

It is thought there will be thousands of pages to sift through.

The most controversial issue in the papers that the BBC has seen relates to what Mrs Thatcher was being told about the views of some senior members of the Merseyside Police Force.

'Deeply ashamed'

They are contained in a letter sent to the prime minister from a member of her policy unit in Downing Street. Four days after the disaster, the adviser attended a long planned meeting with the chief constable of Merseyside Police, the late Sir Kenneth Oxford, and some of his senior colleagues.




    Martin on the Hillsborough papers

According to the letter, the Merseyside chief constable said: "A key factor in causing the disaster was the fact that large numbers of Liverpool fans had turned up without tickets.

"This was getting lost sight of in attempts to blame the police, the football authorities, etc."

The prime minister was informed that a senior member of the Merseyside Police directly blamed supporters: "One officer, born and bred in Liverpool, said that he was deeply ashamed to say that it was drunken Liverpool fans who had caused this disaster, just as they had caused the deaths at Heysel."

This officer is not named.

More of the views of the chief constable are also referred to:

"He deplored the Press's morbid concentration on pictures of bodies. He was also uneasy about the way in which Anfield was being turned into a shrine".

It is important to bear in mind that this was written just days after the Hillsborough disaster and the views of the chief constable and those of his senior officers may well have changed over the subsequent weeks.

The Merseyside Police force has declined to comment.

'Truth must come out'

There is nothing in the documents the BBC has seen about any briefings from South Yorkshire Police. It is possible more will become known about that when many other confidential papers are officially released in a few months time.

Margaret Thatcher walks with Bernard Ingham, Douglas Hurd, Bert Millichip and others as they see the scene of the Hillsborough Disaster, at Hillsborough Stadium, Sheffield. April 16 1989

    To abstain from taking action… would be the gravest possible matter, now that the need for this action had been so conclusively demonstrated”

Margaret Thatcher in 1989


Instead, we have learnt about the controversial views of some of Liverpool's own senior police officers and how, just days after the disaster, they were being passed on directly to 10 Downing Street and to Mrs Thatcher.

A spokesman for the panel said it could not comment on the BBC story.

Other Downing Street papers seen by the BBC provide an insight into what the prime minister was saying and discussing with her cabinet colleagues in the days after Hillsborough.

The main issue of discussion contained in these documents was the effect the disaster was going to have on controversial legislation aimed at controlling the behaviour of football fans.

The Football Spectators' Bill was already going through Parliament. The government was determined to continue with it, in order to introduce a national membership scheme for the sport. This would have brought in identity cards for football fans.

According to the conclusions of the first cabinet meeting to take place after the disaster, Mrs Thatcher told her ministers that the situation on crowd safety and hooliganism at football matches "cried out for action".

The government wanted the legislation to be passed in time for the following year's World Cup finals in Italy - to reduce the prospect of crowd trouble. The meeting also discussed using it to bring in any interim recommendations from the Hillsborough Inquiry.

'Gravest matter'

In another meeting with senior cabinet colleagues which took place on the same day, the prime minister said: "To abstain from taking action… would be the gravest possible matter, now that the need for this action had been so conclusively demonstrated."
Floral tributes laid following the Hillsborough disaster Bereaved families have been calling for the release of secret government and police papers about the disaster

Five days later, Home Secretary Douglas Hurd met the man conducting the official inquiry into Hillsborough, Lord Justice Taylor.

A letter written by a civil servant at the Home Office says Mr Hurd told the judge about the government's proposed new timetable to get the football spectators' legislation passed by Parliament.

He then asked Lord Justice Taylor what he would say if the government went ahead with this and then asked "whether he was really quite sure that it was out of the question to form and express a view on the subject of membership cards in the three-and-a-half months… between the start of the inquiry… and the end of August?"

According to the letter, Lord Justice Taylor told him that "this was possible, but he was not confident that it could be achieved".

He said his priority was establishing the facts of what had happened at Hillsborough and could not promise to come up with any recommendations on membership cards in time to fit in with the government's political schedule.

The prime minister was told what had happened in a briefing note from her principal private secretary, who informed her: "Lord Justice Taylor was distinctly unhelpful."

In the end, the government did press ahead with its plans and the law was passed. However, the following year, in his report, Lord Justice Taylor said he had "grave doubts" about the feasibility of football membership cards and "serious misgivings" about the scheme's likely impact on safety. As a result of his concerns, the government dropped the scheme and it was never implemented.
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R.I.P....
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发表于 13-4-2012 06:29 PM | 显示全部楼层
Liverpool的这个悲剧和Man United当年的munich空难一样的令世人难以忘怀~~
R.I.P~~
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R.I.P~~
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   JFT 96~YNWA
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R.I.P
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R I P!~
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 楼主| 发表于 15-4-2012 10:39 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 随苇轻摇 于 15-4-2012 10:49 PM 编辑

Hillsborough: 10 key questions

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/l ... gh-10-key-questions

官网用video来带出人们对hillsborough disaster 主要的迷思。
有兴趣的可以看看

Question1:
What is Hillsborough Business

Question2:
What is the Hillsborough Indepedent Panel

Question3:
When will the Panel release its reports & what happen then?

Question4:
Why was Hillsborough debated in Parliament in Octaber 2011?

Question 5:
Who are the different Hillsborough Organization?

Question 6:
Why is kevin Williams' case defferent?

Question 7:
Why is Suns Newspaper boycotted by Liverpool fans

Question 8:
What misconceptions are still commonly held

Question 9:
How did Hillsborough change football?

Question 10:
The KOPs sing "Justice for the 96" but what  exactly  is JUSTICE?
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 楼主| 发表于 15-4-2012 10:50 PM | 显示全部楼层
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YNWA~~
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发表于 16-4-2012 01:33 AM | 显示全部楼层
YNWA~~   R.I.P
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RIP
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发表于 16-4-2012 06:15 PM | 显示全部楼层
这个悲局直接影响利物浦的成绩。利物浦在1988/1989赛季最后一场最后一分钟给Michael Thomas进球丢掉当时的Div 1联赛冠军。然后1985年Heysel事件也是,利物浦在欧冠决赛输掉比赛。
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 楼主| 发表于 16-4-2012 06:19 PM | 显示全部楼层
这个悲局直接影响利物浦的成绩。利物浦在1988/1989赛季最后一场最后一分钟给Michael Thomas进球丢掉当时的D ...
Blaugrana 发表于 16-4-2012 06:15 PM



    应该是说影响了利物浦很久,因为dalglish受不了pressure辞职后并没有出现可靠的继任人
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