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Santi Asoke受承认吗?

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发表于 20-7-2008 09:04 PM | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
泰国的Santi Asoke受承认吗?为什么?

希望大家针对Santi Asoke的教导来讨论。谢谢!
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发表于 20-7-2008 09:36 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 Vajira 于 20-7-2008 09:04 PM 发表
泰国的Santi Asoke受承认吗?为什么?

希望大家针对Santi Asoke的教导来讨论。谢谢!


有听过,不过不知道他们的教导。
听说是素食的教团。
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发表于 20-7-2008 10:46 PM | 显示全部楼层
听说他们是大乘+南传的,离开上座部后,出来另创一派。
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发表于 21-7-2008 01:34 AM | 显示全部楼层
Santi Asoke是何因缘而形成的?他们在教导些什么?

谢谢!
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发表于 21-7-2008 08:40 AM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 motion 于 21-7-2008 01:34 AM 发表
Santi Asoke是何因缘而形成的?他们在教导些什么?

谢谢!


类似真佛宗,青海,之类的。
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发表于 21-7-2008 09:52 AM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 das 于 21-7-2008 08:40 AM 发表


类似真佛宗,青海,之类的。


你在楼上用“听说”,酱快就给他们定个“真佛”“清海”之流?
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发表于 22-7-2008 06:18 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 mahalwin 于 21-7-2008 09:52 AM 发表


你在楼上用“听说”,酱快就给他们定个“真佛”“清海”之流?

我说是或不是,并没什么份量的,要知道,去了解他们的教义即可。
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 楼主| 发表于 22-7-2008 07:38 PM | 显示全部楼层
ok, 既然大家对Santi Asoke的了解不是很多,可以看看这个:

Santi Asoke
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Santi Asoke [(Pali) (Thai: สันติอโศก (อะโศ&#3585) literally Peaceful Asoke] sect of Theravada Buddhism was established by a former television entertainer and songwriter Phra Bodhirak after he "declared independence from the Ecclesiastical Council in 1975". [[1]]. He had originally ordained within a monastery recognized by the Thai Sangha, but soon left with a small following in order to create this alternative group, which he sees as a mixture of both Therevada and Mahayana Buddhism. Described by Donald Swearer as “a radical sectarian movement” that “reflects the forest tradition’s ideals of simplicity,” the tradition also claimed an early influence from Buddhadasa, which it later rejected.

Santi Asoke adheres to a strictly moral-based community, following the Theravada precepts with ten extra codes for monks and lay followers. It extols the virtues of an economic doctrine of 'meritism' that is anti-materialist and anti-consumerist, preaching “eat little; use little” with an emphasis that can be expressed as “work a lot, save the rest for the society”.

More radical than Dhammakaya and Buddhadasa schools, Santi Asoke is anti-establishment, actively questioning the role and actions of the Thai government. The sect split from the Thai sangha in response to disapproval regarding their independent practices, and remains a separate movement. Many Thais embraced the movement’s critique of their society, but others were put off by the “outspoken manner and flagrant disregard for Thai ecclesiastical law” that later led to Bodhirak’s arrest (Swearer,139).

While the movement initially continued to grow, in June, 1989 Phra Bodhirak and seventy-nine other ordained followers were arrested, and a number of monks were defrocked, possibly weakening the movement irreparably, although it still maintains a presence in Thai Buddhism.

The Asoke group has since formed a political party that, while ineffective in the party system of Thai politics, works on a grassroots level to promote sustainable agriculture among rural farmers. Formal statistics on population are unavailable, yet it is certain that their communities in Bangkok, Nakhorn Pathom and the Isan region continue to grow, with thousands of members. Some centers have factories and shops that produce and sell herbal products such as medicine soap and shampoo. Other locations are simply farms growing food that is prepared and given away free to anyone.

Those looking for an in-depth ethnographic studies about the Asoke ought to look for the works of Drs. Marja Leena Heikkilä-Horn and Juliana Essen. Danish scholar Heikkilä-Horn has published a book entitled "Buddhism with Open Eyes," a reference to the Asoke group's rejection of sitting meditation in favor of work-based meditation.

"Right Development: The Santi Asoke Buddhist Reform Movement of Thailand" by Dr. Juliana Essen draws on her ethnographic research at one of its seven communities to illustrate Asoke beliefs, and examines the Santi Asoke Buddhist Reform Movement of Thailand as a culturally and environmentally appropriate alternative to western development programs. As an alternative to western capital-intensive industrialization, the Asoke's aim is to foster Buddhist ideals; to release attachment to the material world and attain spiritual freedom.
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 楼主| 发表于 22-7-2008 07:41 PM | 显示全部楼层
我看过他们出版的书《直达初果之道》,看了后有这些疑问,希望大家能来一同探讨下面这些Santi Asoked教法和行为符合佛陀的教导和戒律吗?

1。开眼禅修,关眼是浪费时间
2。证果的方法和衡量的方法
3。看电视修行法
4。授新比丘的方式
5。出家人用音乐教导养生
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发表于 22-7-2008 08:16 PM | 显示全部楼层

回复 9# Vajira 的帖子

看电视修行?这个很有问题,虽然可以从电视上,其他修行者的言论中学习,不过若是看电视节目,就非常有问题。
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