槟城论坛@Penang Forum陷害槟城

forte

herrhughie 发表于 18-8-2016 03:23 PM
你整天经过罢了就想大声啊？去死啦。

虽然我不懂那是不是叫硬木,可是我以前天天都在那些店铺逗留的,比你接触得多多声。当时的店铺都是用很坚硬的木做partition的。通通给冥症摧毁了

还以为你住那边,真的不 ...

好吧，我去死，你慢慢。

herrhughie

槟岛市政厅市议员林马惠应停止玩弄政治、挑战槟州首长若不满其异议可以抄掉他。要是“持有异议”是革除林马惠的市议员、槟城研究院董事及槟州交通理事会成员职位之正当理由的话，他早在很多年前就被开除了，而不是到现在还能够继续维持着他被委任的职位。

--- 槟州首长政治秘书黄汉伟

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槟州首长政治秘书黄汉伟于2016年8月18日在槟城乔治光大发表的声明：

槟岛市政厅市议员林马惠应停止玩弄政治、挑战槟州首长若不满其异议可以抄掉他。要是“持有异议”是革除林马惠的市议员、槟城研究院董事及槟州交通理事会成员职位之正当理由的话，他早在很多年前就被开除了，而不是到现在还能够继续维持着他被委任的职位。

林马惠需要解决的，并不是因大胆发表异议逞英雄而引发的问题，反之，他应该解决的是他试图掩盖本身虽同属受州政府委任要职的一员，却在没有知会槟州政府的情况下，暗地里致函联合国教科文组织告状的事实。

为什么林马惠这么害怕知会州政府他已经向联合国教科文组织告状，投诉称社尾将有交通枢纽，置乔治市世遗地位于不保的风险的事？社尾是总值270亿令吉槟州交通大蓝图计划之交通枢纽的一部分，以兴建公共交通如轻快铁来解决交通阻塞问题。

虽然州政府向来在公布资讯方面，对他都开诚布公，但是在没有知会槟州政府的情况下他向联合国科教文组织投诉，这等于是不正当、不专业及不符合伦理的。州政府有意与全部相关单位合作，解决有关交通大蓝图所出现的问题。但是，在州政府因为相信他而全面提供他所需要的资讯，林马惠却在没有知会州政府的情况下，对交通大蓝图及建议中的交通枢纽大肆批评先发制人的做法，形同背后插刀。

槟州政府也对槟城论坛纵容林马惠的不正当行为感到遗憾，他在不通知州政府的情况下致函联合国科教文组织，而且在考古评估没有完成之前，就持续攻击社尾交通杻纽的建议。州政府相信，交通杻纽和社尾可以共存。林马惠这种向联合国科教文组织投诉的做法可能会破坏整个交通大蓝图的努力，让联邦政府有机会以“联合国科教文世遗区地位受威胁”为由，拒绝槟州交通大蓝图。

槟州交通大蓝图对解决交通阻塞问题非常重要。槟城州政府完全无法理解槟城论坛举莫实得建筑从12楼减为5楼导致槟岛市政局（现槟岛市政厅）必须赔偿2000万令吉的课题作为案例。因为批准这项在古迹区建造12楼建筑的是前朝国阵政府，不是现任州政府。可是前朝国阵政府的各种过错，竟然被挪用来怪罪现任州政府。

槟州政府并不会因为林马惠持有异议而开除他。无论如何，人民将会自行判断，林马惠在没有知会我们的情况下就状告联合国教科文组织，即便我们已表明会持开放态度以及透明处理，但他仍一意孤行。像他这样在州政府背后插刀的行为，究竟是不是专业及符合伦理。

黄汉伟

herrhughie

对我来说,现在因为这个偷偷的动作,我们槟城人更必须

1)无限期的等待交通计划
2)给力中央有机会找借口不批交通计划
3)以后要用到社尾那块地时,中央可以任意阻碍。

全都因为有叛徒,有愚民

矮丑穷

forte 发表于 18-8-2016 04:45 PM
好吧，我去死，你慢慢。

已经决定不鸟他了

forte

矮丑穷 发表于 18-8-2016 05:28 PM
已经决定不鸟他了

你的智慧比我高，修养比我好

仓底货

forte 发表于 18-8-2016 04:45 PM
好吧，我去死，你慢慢。

你现在知道脑残铁粉的厉害了吗？

仓底货

矮丑穷 发表于 18-8-2016 05:28 PM
已经决定不鸟他了

你现在才知道什么叫作脑残铁粉？

forte

仓底货 发表于 18-8-2016 05:39 PM
你现在知道脑残铁粉的厉害了吗？

知道了，果然厉害。。。

forte

仓底货 发表于 18-8-2016 05:39 PM
你现在知道脑残铁粉的厉害了吗？

刚刚在FB看到女神的post, share来这里

仓底货

forte 发表于 19-8-2016 04:42 PM
刚刚在FB看到女神的post, share来这里

不过有时跟脑残铁粉交流可以娱乐沉闷的工作时间。

forte

仓底货 发表于 19-8-2016 04:47 PM
不过有时跟脑残铁粉交流可以娱乐沉闷的工作时间。

我宁愿去看女神的FB

herrhughie

Penang Forum should stop being hypocritical
Chris Lee Chun Kit
19 Aug 2016, PM 4:57 (Updated 19 Aug 2016, PM 5:00)


Dr Lim Mah Hui and the Penang Forum should stop labelling the Penang state government’s criticisms of their methods and justification as an attack on civil society.

As mentioned many times, we have never had an adversarial stand towards Dr Lim and the Penang Forum but for an organisation that advocates democracy and is now criticising the Penang state government’s Transport Master Plan, they should know that as much as they can criticise the Penang state government, the Penang state government and other members of the public have the right to criticise them as well.

Freedom of speech goes both ways. If you want to criticise, be ready to receive criticisms yourself. Your rights are the same as ours. The criticisms on the Penang Forum has even gotten a reply from Dr Kua Kia Soong who ended his article that the Penang State Government should stop behaving like “crybabies” and claims that the Penang Forum is a quintessential civil society. So does Dr Kua mean that the Penang Forum should then be immune to criticisms?


What do Dr Lim, Dr Kua and the Penang Forum mean by an “attack”? Did any member of the Penang state government abuse their power to politically persecute them? Just because we criticise their points of view, this is interpreted as an “attack”? Now who is the one being the crybaby?

Dr Lim, Dr Kua and the Penang Forum should appreciate the fact that the Penang state government is willing to debate and engage, the previous BN administration would outright ignore them. All of a sudden, some are claiming the previous BN government is better just because they didn’t “attack” civil society. So is a government which ignores civil society now better for not listening, engaging and debating?

Whether the Penang Forum is a quintessential civil society or not is not up to Dr Kua Kia Soong but rather the people of Penang to decide. Dr Lim should stop saying that he wont play politics with the chief minister (CM).

I would like to question him on how he could simply forget to copy the George Town World Heritage Incorporated (GTWHI) and National Heritage Department when he sent the letter to Unesco and also he claims that there was “no reason to do that”. Is it wrong to question whether those reasons are even valid to be considered?

If the Penang Forum claims to represent Penangites, then they should understand that not everyone will think the same way that they do and accept that there will always be disagreements. Just because the government of the day disagrees with their views after engagement and discussion, does it justify them going direct to Unesco behind everyone’s back? Can you blame anyone from feeling backstabbed?

Therefore they should remember that they can be criticised as much as any other civil society organisation, political party or activist. If they cannot take criticisms and label it an “attack” instead, then it is easy to see why they cannot accept other ways besides their own and therefore cannot truly represent anyone but themselves, let alone Penang.

CHRIS LEE CHUN KIT is a city councillor with the Penang Island City Council (Majlis Bandaraya Pulau Pinang) representing the DAP.

假冒是神

herrhughie 发表于 20-8-2016 04:39 PM
Penang Forum should stop being hypocritical
Chris Lee Chun Kit
19 Aug 2016, PM 4:57 (Updated 19 Aug 2016, PM 5:00)


Dr Lim Mah Hui and the Penang Forum should stop labelling the Penang state ...

为甚么你永远不提PTMP里的

魔爪伸去接到的那

三粒岛?


嗯嗯嗯嗯嗯嗯嗯

herrhughie

假冒是神 发表于 21-8-2016 10:53 AM
为甚么你永远不提PTMP里的

魔爪伸去接到的那

三粒岛?


嗯嗯嗯嗯嗯嗯嗯

那3粒岛我也是支持的呀,傻嗨

假冒是神

herrhughie 发表于 21-8-2016 09:18 PM
那3粒岛我也是支持的呀,傻嗨

是呀

308后炒地的就是你们呀

我们知道呀

就是PENANG政府的SPC呀


嗯嗯嗯嗯嗯

vvti_84

如果光环被剥夺。。那么最无辜的应该是马六甲

vvti_84

forte 发表于 18-8-2016 02:33 PM
雖然我很討厭面腫黨，但是檳城入遺確實是他們的功勞.我雖然不情願，也要懶懶感謝根根。

所以他们害到我们失去了光环也是情有可原？然后说你火箭要拿，自己再申请咯？

forte

vvti_84 发表于 22-8-2016 01:54 PM
所以他们害到我们失去了光环也是情有可原？然后说你火箭要拿，自己再申请咯？

我说的是根根，你说的应该是林马惠吧？

vvti_84

forte 发表于 23-8-2016 10:55 AM
我说的是根根，你说的应该是林马惠吧？

我其实不认识她

forte

vvti_84 发表于 23-8-2016 11:23 AM
我其实不认识她

安格来的啦