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发表于 23-6-2014 04:56 PM | 显示全部楼层
我们红军要和谐和谐~

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发表于 23-6-2014 05:31 PM | 显示全部楼层
baguspenyu 发表于 23-6-2014 11:19 AM
亨利老板就是不明白球员合约的法律约束性  球员提交转会申请后,球会就不得不放行,对球会不公 ...

http://anfieldindex.com/8967/cla ... s-suarez-story.html

                        Clause? What Clause? The Luis Suarez Story
Less than a year ago Liverpool fans were subjected to one the most farcical transfer sagas in recent years. Like football’s equivalent of the Stark’s, Marca issued their monotonous warning again and again.  “Madrid, is coming” and Suarez will be leaving soon. Instead we received news of a bid from notorious penny-pincher Arsenezer Scrooge offering Liverpool a paltry £40million for the league’s best player and when this didn’t work, the geniuses at Arsenal decided to throw in an extra pound to sweeten the deal. They believed they had triggered a release clause in Suarez’s contract. John Henry had other ideas.
By all accounts he stood at the doors of Melwood screaming “you shall not pass” to every car that drove by until the transfer window slammed shut. Any clause that apparently existed in the contract was ignored and Henry issued a “come and sue me” plea. In reality Henry was aware that the law was on his side and was more than happy to challenge anyone looking to enforce this now infamous clause. Why was Henry so confident and was this clause even a release clause at all?
Buy-out clauses and release clauses: what’s the difference?
Despite what popular media tells us, there is a difference between the two. Buy-out clauses are included in every contract in Spain. These clauses are peculiar in that it is the player (the party to that contract) that has to pay the fee. This means that a club will have to transfer the funds to the player who will then have to buy out his contract. In doing so the player incurs extra tax liability making an already complex transfer more expensive for the buying club.
A brilliant example of this was Herrera’s protracted mover from Bilbao to Manchester United. Usually a club will accept the buy-out amount from the purchasing club as it makes the process run much smoother but this is not always the case. The Devils were left Red in the face when, in attempt to spare their blushes, it was asserted that there were mysterious rogue lawyers pretending to represent the club and that they had not sanctioned any deals. As it turns out this was not the case and the transfer fell through due to time constraints and the complexity of the deal.
A release clause is one that, subject to certain qualifying conditions, requires a club to sell the player to a bidding club. An example of such a qualifying condition was the transfer of Joe Allen to Liverpool. His contract with Swansea specified that any of the top 6 clubs (which were named in the contract) could come in and purchase Allen at a previously negotiated price stated in the contract.
The interesting thing about these clauses is that when the buying club is specifically named in the contract they will get rights under the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999. This allows a named party, in whose favour a term of a contract confers a right, to enforce the contract and bypass the privity of contract doctrine (whereby only parties to a contract can sue). While the legality of these clauses hasn’t been fully tested at a European level it is highly unlikely that such a clause could be ignored. Where a third party isn’t named the player themselves can enforce the clause. At this point it might be prudent to remember that Luis Suarez has taken a previous club to court to force a transfer from Groningen to Ajax. Why didn’t he do the same in this case?
You may remember the term “good faith” release clause being bandied around midway through last summer. It is this unusual clause in Suarez’s contract which caused such controversy. The clause was reviewed by representatives of Suarez, Liverpool football club and even the PFA. What they found is that the clause only required Liverpool to entertain offers of £40million or more and then to negotiate in good faith. Good faith requirements are common in EU law especially in areas regarding consumers but haven’t as yet been introduced to the more adversarial landscape of commercial contracts. In order to satisfy the requirements all Liverpool would have to do is say: “how much? £40million and one pound? We’re actually ok thanks.” It is even possible that an express clause to negotiate in good faith wouldn’t even be recognised by the court in this commercial context, although there has been a trend in recent decisions to enforce such clauses.
Liverpool didn’t have to sell Suarez, only open a dialogue with the potential buying club and state their demands. It wasn’t a case of Henry standing over the cowering Gazidis, cigar in hand, screaming “not on my watch.” Neither Suarez nor Arsenal had a case against Liverpool and Henry knew this.
Unfortunately it wasn’t management heroics, or a flagrant disregard for a binding clause that kept Luis Suarez at Anfield, it was an abnormal clause which was interpreted in favour of Liverpool. Suarez has since signed a new contract with Liverpool which is rumored to contain a more concrete release clause and may even name check certain clubs. For reasons explained above it is unlikely Liverpool would be able to ignore such a clause if a bid was to activate it this summer but just in case it does, anyone know the Spanish for #FreeSuarez? I think I feel a petition coming on.

合约的东西, 我已经懒惰翻译了

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发表于 23-6-2014 05:34 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
我觉得,suarez想要去西甲是事实。一个能够为爱踢球的人,爱人的家人都在西班牙,这是最大的诱惑。

去年suarez不表态的最主要原因,是因为阿仙纳不是他想要去的球队。但跟英格兰比赛后那些关于suarez想转会,或是跟liverpool关系不好的新闻,应该是别人放消息出来的。目的,就是要逼suarez走以及让球迷讨厌他。

我觉得,身为利记的球迷,只要suarez一天是球队球员,我们都要无条件支持他。就算到最后他真的要走,大家都好聚好散。大家别跌入别队所传出来的谣言陷阱。

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发表于 23-6-2014 08:01 PM | 显示全部楼层
英媒曝苏亚雷斯决定离开红军,前往西甲发展

英国的《星期日泰晤士报》从利物浦前锋苏亚雷斯身边的消息源了解到,这位乌拉圭神锋想要在今夏离开利物浦,并且前往西班牙踢球。

去年夏天,阿森纳曾有意通过支付毁约金的方式得到苏亚雷斯,但利物浦执意不卖这位当家射手,这令苏亚雷斯感到不满。《星期日泰晤士报》着重指出,令苏亚雷斯想要离开安菲尔德的一个重要原因,就是主帅罗杰斯曾在上赛季初期苏亚雷斯遭遇禁赛时表示球队并不想念这位神射手。

罗杰斯的这一言论令苏亚雷斯感到不安,他在解禁复出后用近乎疯狂的进球势头证明自己对于红军的重要性,攻入31粒英超进球的苏亚雷斯也荣膺了英超赛季最佳球员。

此外据西班牙的《世界体育报》报道,苏亚雷斯的新合同中有高达8000万欧元(折合约为6790万英镑)的毁约金。巴萨方面已经派人与苏亚雷斯的经纪人接触,希望不用通过激活毁约条款的方式得到这名乌拉圭神锋。
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发表于 23-6-2014 08:24 PM | 显示全部楼层
英超第一神今夏决定赴西甲 皇马巴萨谁砸8000万



 与去年夏天一样,苏亚雷斯的未来又成为今夏转会市场上的悬疑大片!去年这个时候,苏亚雷斯随乌拉圭队参加联合会杯,地点也是在巴西,当时他先是称愿意加盟皇马,后来又与阿森纳扯上关系,甚至爆出4000万+1英镑的闹剧;今年夏天,苏亚雷斯随乌拉圭参加巴西世界杯,大赛激烈正酣,利物浦前锋伤愈复出状态正佳,在生死战中梅开二度帮助乌拉圭2-1击败英格兰,保留了晋级16强的希望。就在乌拉圭迎来小组赛第二场生死战之际,欧洲足坛再度传来关于苏亚雷斯的转会传闻,称他已经决定离开利物浦。

  捅出这条消息是英国媒体《泰晤士报》,该报披露,他们从苏亚雷斯身边的知情人拿到消息,乌拉圭前锋确实做好了离开安菲尔德的准备,前往的地点是伊比利亚半岛,唯一的悬念是皇马还是巴塞罗那。英国媒体《泰晤士报》指出,苏亚雷斯之所以做出如此决定,是因为利物浦主帅罗杰斯曾在上赛季初期苏亚雷斯遭遇禁赛时表示球队并不想念这位神射手;罗杰斯的这一言论令苏亚雷斯感到不安,他在解禁复出后用近乎疯狂的进球势头证明自己对于红军的重要性,攻入31粒英超进球的苏亚雷斯也荣膺了英超赛季最佳球员。

  按照舰队街的说法,苏亚雷斯在过去一个赛季证明了自己,这次离开安菲尔德,让他更有底气和面子,回击了利物浦主帅罗杰斯。关于苏亚雷斯下赛季会为哪支球队踢球,来自西班牙媒体《世界体育报》的消息称,巴塞罗那打算出资求购乌拉圭前锋,不过苏亚雷斯与利物浦的合同中有高达8000万欧元的毁约金,这对于加泰罗尼亚豪门而言,是一个挑战,因为巴塞罗那并不愿意激活苏亚雷斯的合同毁约金,据悉西甲豪门已经派人与苏亚雷斯的经纪人接触,希望压低利物浦的要价。
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发表于 23-6-2014 08:28 PM | 显示全部楼层
tcguanz 发表于 23-6-2014 05:31 PM
http://anfieldindex.com/8967/clause-what-clause-luis-suarez-story.html

                        Clause? What Clause?  ...

球员的合约条款千奇百怪,只有球会,球员和足总知道详细的资料
媒体的版本也很多,是真是假都只是猜测而已咯
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发表于 23-6-2014 08:29 PM | 显示全部楼层
【利物浦】苏神亲承投巴萨
据《泰晤士报》报道,皇家马德里、巴塞罗那都有意支付利物浦前锋苏亚雷斯7000万的解约金,据《镜报》报道,苏亚雷斯已经向朋友表示,他将离开利物浦加盟巴塞罗那。



据《太阳报》报道,南安普顿为拉拉纳标出3000万英镑的身价,利物浦已经暂时搁置这笔转会。
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发表于 23-6-2014 08:41 PM | 显示全部楼层
baguspenyu 发表于 23-6-2014 08:01 PM
英媒曝苏亚雷斯决定离开红军,前往西甲发展

英国的《星期日泰晤士报》从利物浦前锋苏亚雷斯身边的消息源 ...

每次看到这类新闻,都怕怕的。。。
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发表于 23-6-2014 08:56 PM | 显示全部楼层
i_Phantom 发表于 23-6-2014 08:41 PM
每次看到这类新闻,都怕怕的。。。

习惯就好。。。只要苏亚雷斯继续有好表现,每个转会窗口都会有这样的‘故事’
偶都是当作连载小说来看的
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发表于 23-6-2014 09:05 PM | 显示全部楼层
baguspenyu 发表于 23-6-2014 08:28 PM
球员的合约条款千奇百怪,只有球会,球员和足总知道详细的资料  
媒体的版本也很多,是真是 ...

让你们心里有个谱先, 不然像某人这样, 觉得自己球会很厉害, 有release clause还要大小声要200mil。 如果合约没漏洞钻, suarez要跑谁都止不了

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发表于 23-6-2014 09:14 PM | 显示全部楼层
tcguanz 发表于 23-6-2014 09:05 PM
让你们心里有个谱先, 不然像某人这样, 觉得自己球会很厉害, 有release clause还要大小声要200mil。 如 ...

转会的因素还有很多啦
苏亚是被罗帅和队长不断游说留下 还有枪手‘侮辱性’报价,也无法让苏亚团队有更好的理由
苏亚雷斯愿意留下固然好咯 如果离开,留下可观的转会费,对双方都好
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发表于 23-6-2014 09:25 PM | 显示全部楼层
比利时小将一战成名,热刺利物浦或展开竞争

比利时前锋奥里吉帮助球队绝杀俄罗斯,而他也已经吸引了来自热刺以及利物浦的目光。

年仅19岁的里尔前锋在与俄罗斯的世界杯比赛中打入制胜球,而这也吸引了热刺主席列维的目光,他希望能够签下这名前锋。球队新帅波切蒂诺希望能够增强球队的攻击火力,他准备出售阿德巴约和索尔达多。

不过利物浦同时也对这名前锋虎视眈眈,虽然已经签下了兰伯特,但是红军希望继续增强锋线。奥里吉在2010年就从根克加盟里尔,而法甲球队对他的心理价位在500万英镑左右。

热刺以及阿森纳同时有意签下标准烈日前锋巴舒亚伊,不过后者即将加盟马赛。
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发表于 23-6-2014 09:36 PM | 显示全部楼层
baguspenyu 发表于 23-6-2014 11:10 AM
卖1亿英镑++,我军就可能买3-4个世界级球员轮换使用
苏亚雷斯又可以需求不一样的挑战,达到双赢 ...

是的。苏牙一不是出自利物浦青训,二不是本土户口本,忠诚度自然不足。利物浦高层应该飞去巴西好好和苏牙交底,要是苏牙非走不可,那就说服苏牙配合球会卖出好价格,也可以让苏牙创下高额转会费的记录,而我军可以利用这笔巨款引进更多当打球星,可能比一个苏牙实力更强。双赢!

话说杰队真的可以慢慢淡出了,可以续约到退役,担任精神领袖,有需要就派上场帮助球队和小将,不要再场场踢满了。
扶植本土帮成为新的球队icon,是当务之急,个人属意亨少。目前只有他是主力,还是本土帮,斯特林还太嫩。
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发表于 23-6-2014 09:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
latte3948 发表于 23-6-2014 09:36 PM
是的。苏牙一不是出自利物浦青训,二不是本土户口本,忠诚度自然不足。利物浦高层应该飞去巴西好好和苏牙 ...

还有时间啦 就让苏亚雷斯先专心为国家队效力,世界杯后再谈也不迟
要有球员扛起杰拉德作为精神领袖的激励任务,杰拉德才能逐渐淡出主力阵容
亨少还有点嫩,可以先成为第三副队长开始尝试带领球队打战
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发表于 23-6-2014 09:56 PM | 显示全部楼层
Liverpool have been in contact with Barcelona in recent weeks to register their interest in Chile attacker Alexis Sanchez. However, during those discussions Barcelona haven't given any indication that they are plotting a swoop for Luis Suarez. (Liverpool Echo)


希望374會來
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发表于 23-6-2014 09:57 PM | 显示全部楼层
baguspenyu 发表于 23-6-2014 09:48 PM
还有时间啦 就让苏亚雷斯先专心为国家队效力,世界杯后再谈也不迟
要有球员扛起杰拉德作为精神 ...

时间是稍纵即逝的,要是在这段期间被人说动苏牙背叛,或许我们最后即使卖掉他,好处也降低很多也不一定。飞过去还是比较保险,当然能留就留,留不住就进行第二方案,说服苏牙好好做最后的合作和道别。那比现在守株待兔更好。
而且,或许也可以趁机在巴西先搞定一些球员加盟,也不是没收获的事。

现在捧起亨少时机已经成熟了,亨少几岁了?再不捧,难道要等到杰拉德退役才捧?我们需要破格启用,而不是都是在等。大家可以对杰拉德有爱,为什么也不能对亨少有更大的信心呢?

杰拉德再不为自己打算,场场踢满,那等待的是走下坡。个人希望他新赛季开始慢慢退居二线。留个好印象给大家,而不是等到不能踢了,又犯更多关键错误。毕竟杰拉德技术不似皮尔洛,他的力量型踢法,随着年龄逊色,已经接近迟暮了。
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发表于 23-6-2014 10:18 PM | 显示全部楼层
latte3948 发表于 23-6-2014 09:57 PM
时间是稍纵即逝的,要是在这段期间被人说动苏牙背叛,或许我们最后即使卖掉他,好处也降低很多也不一定。 ...

这段时期跟他洽谈,只会弄巧反拙吧 他在专心为国家队卖命,却来烦他球会的事
有心人要唆使他叛逃,至到转会窗口结束前都有机会的
让亨少扛起激励球队的任务,未免太沉重 可能会导致他发挥失常
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发表于 24-6-2014 08:25 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
我希望球会上下尽一切努力, 竭尽全力留下苏神。当然, 还需看他本身的意愿, 毕竟能和梅西,罗纳多这类型的球员一起踢球是很大的诱惑和梦想。如果收到一份难以抗拒的天价报价, 球员也很坚决。放手也无妨是个双赢的结果。但必须要很有自信能找到适当,超强实力的接班人。球坛是很现实的: No one is irreplaceable...
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发表于 24-6-2014 09:53 AM | 显示全部楼层
baguspenyu 发表于 23-6-2014 10:18 PM
这段时期跟他洽谈,只会弄巧反拙吧  他在专心为国家队卖命,却来烦他球会的事
有心人要唆使他 ...

未必。有试未为知。
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发表于 24-6-2014 10:53 AM | 显示全部楼层
latte3948 发表于 24-6-2014 09:53 AM
未必。有试未为知。

确实可以尝试 但以亨少在利物浦的年资,还不足够取信于几位大哥
中间可能需要让中生代球员如阿格,卢卡斯,苏亚雷斯担任队长扛起激励队友的任务
亨少从中学习,帮手 循序渐进,才不会拖垮亨少
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