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CRon7

和史高斯做了十一年隊友的堅尼說：「人們以為史高斯害羞，也害怕面對鏡頭，其實他只是偽裝，他根本不想被打擾。那時候我們都不想接受採訪，但在更衣室裡頭，大家也會分擔起這個責任。現在他做了這份工作，是為了錢吧。就算他現在坐在我前面，我也會這樣說。」

mbnk

其實高仔说的错。。。
不过我还是支持加尔留任
只要今年打入欧冠

天然夜行者

天然夜行者

-神之子- 发表于 13-2-2015 12:38 PM
单看成绩真牛B

可惜英超是38场

天然夜行者

筷子 发表于 14-2-2015 07:50 PM
往事只能回味。。。
缘份已尽。。。

@meisuang 你单身吗？

天然夜行者

筷子 发表于 15-2-2015 12:23 PM
espn：曼联开始和阿翔谈续约。。。

阿翔周薪只值得5-6万（现在13万），他肯降薪？

天然夜行者

筷子 发表于 15-2-2015 05:24 PM

我对blind有信心。。。
他长传不错，未来肯定更精准，也更多

天然夜行者

Blaugrana 发表于 15-2-2015 07:26 PM
湄双？太好听的名字了

以后有女儿，名字就是湄双

天然夜行者

-神之子- 发表于 15-2-2015 10:16 PM
凡事总有两面，不是说批评就不爱曼联，不批评就是爱曼联。
总要有人做“鲨鱼”在后面diong下diong下，在 ...

我对+2的感觉是，很有坚持，可是如果坚持错了，会稍微调整

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meisuang 发表于 15-2-2015 10:33 PM
谢谢你们！
要感谢我父母咯

我也想感谢岳父岳母

天然夜行者

马竞上一场那么神勇，现在突然输了。。。

-神之子-

Andriy_Vince 发表于 15-2-2015 11:00 PM
爱之深，责之切。
没有几个球员/球迷，能达到Scholes对曼联的爱意，
众多球会到最后几乎想都不想就放弃 ...

我明白+2目前是以前四作为首要目标，所以足球看起来很功利主义，
同样也是功利主义的徒弟鸟叔却也能打出漂亮的足球，
反而身为师傅的场面却如此难看，非常不解。
+2是有他自己的一套，可是他不关曼联目前阵容的能力，
硬要球员配合他的战术，而不是设计一套适合目前球员能力的战术……
曼联那一套踢了二十多年，+2只要以费爷的战术作为基点和中心思想，
稍加自己战术思维，一点一滴地把自己想要的东西加进去，
让球员慢慢适应他要的东西，不要操之过急，这过渡期肯定挨得过去。
可是自信到近乎自负的他一来就352，完全颠覆曼联熟悉的板路，
结果看到的就是空有控球，威胁却大减，因为阵中根本没有多少个能够贯彻他战术的球员。

昨天看了工厂上半场的比赛，那种进攻真是行云流水，赏心悦目。
希望曼联尽快回到过去的霸气，我还是相信+2，只希望他别太固执，
也别再把天使队长的位置调换踢了。

-神之子-

天然夜行者 发表于 16-2-2015 10:05 AM
马竞上一场那么神勇，现在突然输了。。。

皇马上一场那么颓，现在突然赢了
不过巴萨现在开挂了，每一场都大炒对手，够力。

天然夜行者

-神之子- 发表于 16-2-2015 10:15 AM
我明白+2目前是以前四作为首要目标，所以足球看起来很功利主义，
同样也是功利主义的徒弟鸟叔却也能打出 ...

鸟叔第二赛季才不错。。。

我觉得该放眼2015-16，看看+2会买哪些球员

天然夜行者

-神之子- 发表于 16-2-2015 10:26 AM
皇马上一场那么颓，现在突然赢了
不过巴萨现在开挂了，每一场都大炒对手，够力。

现在最有冠军相的是巴塞。。。MSN，Rakitic开始有默契

尤其是messi，稳定的可怕

水手一月山

The first thing we need to deal with – and put out of the way – is the long-ball question, because it is a red herring and utterly irrelevant to any conversation about Manchester United.

Sam Allardyce tried a few fun and games last week when he accused United of being a long-ball team but I was surprised that Louis van Gaal even responded by producing reams of charts at his press conference on Tuesday. All you are doing is legitimising what Allardyce is saying and looking like you need to justify yourself. Van Gaal didn't.

The problem with Manchester United – and the reason they are underperforming – is more subtle and tactical than that and it all flows from a critical flaw in the team: the lack of either pace or height in the strike force.

I’m not kidding you when I say that pace kills you as a central defender. If you had given me the choice as a central defender of being up against skills or a forward who can run like a whippet, I’d take the skills every day of the week. You can always use your technique to deal with them. But pace through the middle of the pitch? That does things to defenders. It makes you drop back three or four yards because that’s the kind of head start you want to give yourself. And when the defence drops three or four yards, the midfield does because no side wants a gap between those two lines. It’s a cardinal sin and it will lose you the game.

And here we get to the nub of it. No defence feels the need to drop those three or four important yards with the strike partnership Van Gaal has been settling on: Robin van Persie and Radamel Falcao. Both are very good strikers, but neither is going to stretch a defence with his pace and get in behind.

Both want to go short for the ball. Neither does that partnership provide the big man/small man combination that will also have defences worrying and playing deep. When there is a big target man in the partnership, central defenders will worry about him getting the knock-down for the smaller striker, who can get in behind. So back they go.

There are no such worries for the teams United have been up against. The centre-halves are following Van Persie and Falcao all the way out because they are not afraid of the second man in the partnership stretching them. The knock-on effect is that the midfield is able to play a high line, pressurising United’s midfielders and not allowing them the time to move the ball forward at pace. I’d say that 90 per cent of the time United pick up the ball in midfield their backs are to goal because someone is right up their arse – to describe it as we’d describe it when I was playing!

There has been a lot of talk about there being a lack of pace in this United team but you can’t tell me that players are going out lacking the intention or the instructions to do things at pace, the Manchester United way. Everything is about cause and effect in football. There is a reason why they are not shifting the ball quickly. It all stems from opponents not fearing that front line.

Robin van Persie, Wayne Rooney and Radamel Falcao Robin van Persie, Wayne Rooney and Radamel Falcao Liverpool were having the same problem earlier this season, too. We talked about it in this column. But Brendan Rodgers put Raheem Sterling, with his pace, up front, and now has Daniel Sturridge back. Defences are going back and allowing Liverpool that time and space.

So United need a different combination at the top of that team. Either James Wilson, their striker with pace, and Van Persie. Or Wilson with Wayne Rooney. Or Van Persie with Marouane Fellaini – creating that big man/little man combination I’ve mentioned, with Van Persie picking up the knock-downs. You only had to see the chaos Burnley caused United on Wednesday, with Danny Ings’ pace stretching the defence continually and – as United retreated to deal with it – Michael Kightly, Ashley Barnes and George Boyd having so much time on the ball in the space created.

There have already been hints of what the kind of changes I’m talking about can do. Watch United’s 3-0 win over Liverpool again and you’ll see the way the threat of Wilson’s pace forced Liverpool to play deep last December, even though he hardly had a touch early on. Fellaini’s arrival at Upton Park in an advanced role also forced West Ham deeper. These are the equations which explain United’s problems. A long-ball reputation is the last thing Van Gaal should be preoccupied about.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/manchester-uniteds-woes-lie-in-lack-of-pace-in-attack-writes-danny-higginbotham-10047742.html

诸位同意吗？

我满赞同的。这家伙踢球时不是很成功，但是讲起球来到满不错的。

水手一月山

-神之子- 发表于 16-2-2015 10:15 AM
我明白+2目前是以前四作为首要目标，所以足球看起来很功利主义，
同样也是功利主义的徒弟鸟叔却也能打出 ...

只能说+2看走眼，高估了曼联球员改造和适应的能力。

Pep 就比较厉害，跑去拜仁一意孤行自己那套，还是那么风生水起。

-神之子-

天然夜行者 发表于 16-2-2015 10:39 AM
鸟叔第二赛季才不错。。。

我觉得该放眼2015-16，看看+2会买哪些球员

只要能够进军欧冠，球迷也没什么好吵了
能够排第3是bonus，最后拿到足总杯的话是bonus中的bonus

-神之子-

天然夜行者 发表于 16-2-2015 10:41 AM
现在最有冠军相的是巴塞。。。MSN，Rakitic开始有默契

尤其是messi，稳定的可怕

2015金球已经有得主，闲下

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水手一月山 发表于 16-2-2015 10:49 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/manchester-uniteds-woes-lie-in-lack-of- ...

我蛮赞同的，现在球员真的懒惰跑动，速度不够快
速度快的一般上都是17-27岁之间

除非+2敢于抛弃那些27岁以上的高龄球员（rooney, carrick, RVP, Falcao, Young, Valencia），不然现状很难改善