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【15/16赛季 英超联赛第2轮】 阿斯顿维拉 vs 曼联 0-1 2连胜

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发表于 15-8-2015 05:38 PM | 显示全部楼层
师奶的淋。。。





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发表于 15-8-2015 06:24 PM | 显示全部楼层
Darmian和师奶德林的确是今夏最好的引援(目前为止)。

不过攻击力还是一样的疲软,总不能场场这样1-0..
乐观的是,以往的胜利模式重启,在不占优势的情况下依然能全取3分,这在联赛非常非常的重要。
另外,防守方面真的进步了,希望不是三分钟热度。
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发表于 15-8-2015 06:26 PM | 显示全部楼层
这season的中场选择多,对手更本抓不到LVG打什么牌(在他不会每次都老实在发布会上先公布名单的前提下)
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发表于 15-8-2015 06:28 PM | 显示全部楼层
多给Rooney一点时间吧,太就没打中锋了,生疏难免。而且现在不靠他要靠谁?
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发表于 15-8-2015 06:52 PM | 显示全部楼层
Andriy_Vince 发表于 15-8-2015 04:49 AM
世界杯冠军队长,
她的气场犹如白胡子。嘻嘻

Prior to the start of qualification, Schweinsteiger was appointed as the new captain for Germany after Phillip Lahm's retirement.Paiseh.
世界杯冠军队的现任队长。

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发表于 15-8-2015 06:56 PM | 显示全部楼层
Aaran 发表于 15-8-2015 03:05 PM
世界级的9号去年已经买了啊,结果还不是一样GG。
这样的 offensive organisation 你买 Harry Kane 进 ...

那个不是世界级吧,
anyway, 我们看看今年他在CHE的发挥,
就能断定他是否在重伤后,是否还是世界级前锋。

是他的问题,还是球会问题。lol

其实 Rooney 的周薪实收只有大约240k


240k,应该可以买新的世界级前锋,
如果可以买Benzema or Lewondolski 最好。嘻嘻

其实在未买入新的本土攻击型球星,
很难放掉Rooney. 球会没得选。

而且,现在谁还要买他?
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发表于 15-8-2015 06:59 PM | 显示全部楼层
天然夜行者 发表于 15-8-2015 01:02 PM
现在的首发防线有3个聪明的球员加变大只的shaw

Smalling算聪明??

虽然防守能力提升了。
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发表于 15-8-2015 07:59 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
其实进攻线买什么球员效果都一样,是van gaal的问题
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发表于 15-8-2015 09:06 PM | 显示全部楼层
Andriy_Vince 发表于 15-8-2015 06:56 PM
那个不是世界级吧,
anyway, 我们看看今年他在CHE的发挥,
就能断定他是否在重伤后,是否还是世界级 ...

穆勒也可以。
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发表于 15-8-2015 09:11 PM | 显示全部楼层

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发表于 15-8-2015 09:23 PM | 显示全部楼层
有没有full match的link? 感激
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发表于 15-8-2015 09:58 PM | 显示全部楼层
Andriy_Vince 发表于 15-8-2015 06:56 PM
那个不是世界级吧,
anyway, 我们看看今年他在CHE的发挥,
就能断定他是否在重伤后,是否还是世界级 ...

Benzema 买来只会是另一坨屎,只是球迷一厢情愿的以为他进来就会自动进球。
只是一味回传的话买莱温进来也不会改变什么。

世界级的前锋要不要来关键都不是周薪,你给Muller 350k 周薪难道他就会立刻来咩?这种 bracket 的球员,球会要不要放人才是关键。
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发表于 15-8-2015 11:01 PM | 显示全部楼层
小紅魔 发表于 15-8-2015 06:28 PM
多给Rooney一点时间吧,太就没打中锋了,生疏难免。而且现在不靠他要靠谁?

太久没打or 没能力再打?

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发表于 15-8-2015 11:03 PM | 显示全部楼层

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发表于 16-8-2015 09:54 AM | 显示全部楼层
Aaran 发表于 15-8-2015 01:42 PM
Darmian 的首要工作还是先把防守的工作做好,first thing first。不要像巴塞的门将这样要扮 hero,结果被 ...

我觉得+2可能考虑到现场球迷狂嘘Young赌博放jaz(赌赢了)


加上死都要放荷兰人上场,结果Memphis急于表现和很少左切

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发表于 16-8-2015 10:20 AM | 显示全部楼层
Andriy_Vince 发表于 15-8-2015 06:59 PM
Smalling算聪明??

虽然防守能力提升了。

2014-15和2015-16前两场的表现,尤其是后者
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发表于 16-8-2015 11:07 AM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 天然夜行者 于 16-8-2015 11:13 AM 编辑

Villa 这赛季买的人 (net spent 6m ):

Position:PlayerTransferred fromFeeDate
MF Scott Sinclair Manchester CityUndisclosed (~ £2,500,000)[28]19 May 2015[a]
DF Micah Richards Manchester CityFree transfer17 June 2015
GK Mark Bunn Norwich CityFree transfer9 July 2015
MF Idrissa Gueye LilleUndisclosed (~ £9,000,000)[9]10 July 2015
DF Jordan Amavi NiceUndisclosed (~ £9,000,000)[13]18 July 2015
FW Jordan Ayew LorientUndisclosed (~ £9,000,000)[16]27 July 2015
DF José ángel Crespo CórdobaUndisclosed (~ £500,000)[29]28 July 2015
MF Jordan Veretout NantesUndisclosed (~ £7,000,000)[30]31 July 2015
FW Rudy Gestede Blackburn RoversUndisclosed (~ £6,000,000)[31]31 July 2015
MF Adama Traoré Barcelona BUndisclosed (~ £7,000,000)14 August 2015

当天出场球员:
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发表于 16-8-2015 11:17 AM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 天然夜行者 于 16-8-2015 11:27 AM 编辑

Wayne Rooney's Man United form is a concern; van Gaal needs a new striker

BY SCOTT PATTERSON

@筷子

There were hopes that Manchester United captain Wayne Rooney would rediscover some form against Aston Villa on Friday night, considering he had scored 15 goals against them in his career. Remarkably, though, he was even worse than he was against Tottenham last week.


His lack of mobility, touch and pace prevent him from leading the line successfully. When you compare him to strikers at rival clubs, like Sergio Aguero, the gap in quality between them is embarrassing.


Rooney was anonymous in United's 1-0 win over Spurs, having just one shot from open play, which was off-target.

He should have been able to save Kyle Walker's blushes by putting Ashley Young's cross into the back of the net, but he dithered and gave the Spurs defender time to get back and poke it away from him. Fortunately, Walker's dispossession of Rooney allowed the ball to trickle past Michel Vorm and gave United the three points.


Rooney didn't even have a single shot in 90 minutes against Villa, and you wouldn't have noticed he was on the pitch if not for his poor passing or first touch.

It's not just his failure to score goals that is worthy of criticism but also his inability to create them for others. His hesitation in front of goal against Spurs reared its ugly head on too many occasions against Villa.

At one point on Friday, with Morgan Schneiderlin and Memphis Depay waiting in the penalty area, Rooney was presented with a great opportunity to put the ball into the box. Instead he stopped, turned back on himself and gave another defender the time to get back and take the ball off him.


We have to go back to Nov. 2014, when he scored against Arsenal at the Emirates, to find Rooney's last away goal for United. It was a fine goal on the break, as he took the ball past Nacho Monreal with his first touch before lifting the ball over Wojciech Szczesny.

Such a move is a rarity, and his touch has been on the wane for a while, yet this seems to have been ignored. As the captain of both his club and country, the English international benefits from the protection of pundits, journalists and fans.


Last season, when Rooney was played in midfield to accommodate Radamel Falcao and Robin van Persie up front (while also keeping Ander Herrera out of the team), fans were crying out for a change in position. Rooney was dreadful in midfield, but in his defence, he hadn't asked to play there. In fact, Rooney had made it quite clear in the latter stages of Sir Alex Ferguson's tenure that he had no desire to play in midfield.

Van Gaal has responded to those calls -- largely because there is no one else he can play up front -- and Rooney's response to being used in the position he craves has been poor.


Some fans have lost patience with Rooney for his dreadful performances, while others have never forgiven him for trying to leave United twice. He tried to leave in Oct. 2010, only for him to change his mind and sign a new deal.

After claiming this lack of loyalty was the biggest mistake of his career, he then tried to leave again three years later. Manchester City and Chelsea were both heavily linked each time it appeared his future lay away from Old Trafford.

Some fans wrongly argue that those who criticise Rooney are doing so only because they don't like him after the attempts to leave. The point is, he hasn't been good enough for several seasons.


Under David Moyes, Rooney was given an untouchable status within the squad. Regardless of how poorly he played, he would not be dropped.

This status has only been enhanced under Van Gaal, with Rooney receiving the captaincy now too. Much to the disappointment of many United fans, the manager revealed that it was unlikely he would ever leave his captain out of a starting lineup. He was happy to admit that whoever wears the armband receives preferential treatment when the team is being decided.



Now, with Javier Hernandez and James Wilson being Rooney's only rivals for the position, you have to wonder just how badly Rooney would have to play to be replaced. Hernandez is bereft of confidence and has barely played over the past two seasons, while Wilson isn't ready to start week in, week out. While the pace of both of these players would add something different to the mix, they are not serious contenders to keep Rooney out of the team.


United have four games to play before the transfer window closes, which should give the manager plenty of time to reflect on just how necessary it is to bring in a new striker.

However, if Van Gaal's comments post-Villa are anything to go by, with him confirming that having so few shots is not a concern as long as his team scores more than the opposition, the season ahead could be a frustrating one for United fans.



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发表于 16-8-2015 11:24 AM | 显示全部楼层
Andriy_Vince 发表于 15-8-2015 06:59 PM
Smalling算聪明??

虽然防守能力提升了。

有师奶在身前守护,外加卡神,是可以让后卫防守值直接+10的。

看看圣徒这两场的成绩,没有了师奶,被进了几粒了。。。

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发表于 16-8-2015 11:46 AM | 显示全部楼层
水手一月山 发表于 16-8-2015 11:24 AM
有师奶在身前守护,外加卡神,是可以让后卫防守值直接+10的。

看看圣徒这两场的成绩,没有了师奶,被 ...

Southampton 现在的后防线:

              Stekelenburg
Soares   Fonte  Yoshida   Targett

整个防守体系只有 Fonte 是上季的正选,还没加上你说的 CM 因素。
要在短时间让这么多人融合是很困难的,没有 defensive organisation 是情理之中。


Defensive organisation 只需服从战术纪律,相比之下比较 “简单”。
Offensive organisation 除了战术纪律,还需要 “creativity”。说到创造力事情就更复杂了,更何况是要求几个人集体发挥创造力。
所以 Offensive organisation 比 Defensive organisation 迟来,也是属于合理的范围。


足球是团队运动,这是很简单的道理,只是球迷比较喜欢跟着自己的情绪走,怪罪特定球员。

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