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原帖由 khokhokho 于 18-9-2006 11:35 PM 发表
如現在起了 rm 0.100 才rm 100 會多嗎?股票沒有所謂的高和底,只在你心中是如何想而已,如果給你知道講megan會上升到暴漲暴到rm 6.00時,那現在rm 0。645你會講會多嗎?所以要買股,就要對自已的信心 ...
khokhokho兄:
你有买magan吗?我大部分的钱买了pelikan,我打算卖了mrcb买magan... |
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全部人都嫌打中文字慢而打英文的话,那中文论坛做何用呢?
原帖由 alang 于 18-9-2006 10:48 PM 发表
wtk75兄,你讲得非常正确。key in 中文真的很慢。 |
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发表于 20-9-2006 02:28 PM
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关于MEGAN 06‘年报的一些问题:
1。MEGAN 06’ 的Depreciation 高达 RM121,465K。可为什么在INCOME STATEMENT里没列出?Before Operating profit, 只列出了Distribution Cost, Administration Exp 和 Other Operational Exp. 却没有 Depreciation. 不是应该要从 Gross Profit 减去 Depreciation 才能得到 Operation Profit 的吗?
2. 什么是Distribution Cost, Administration Exp 和 Other Operational Exp?在 Notes里好像没有细加解说? |
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原帖由 kennypin 于 20-9-2006 02:28 PM 发表
1。MEGAN 06’ 的Depreciation 高达 RM121,465K。可为什么在INCOME STATEMENT里没列出?Before Operating profit, 只列出了Distribution Cost, Administration Exp 和 Other Operational Exp. 却没有 Depreciatio ...
根据megan2006年的报告书第45页,operating profit is arrived after charging depreciation RM 121,465,000 。
所以,在计算Operating profit 的时候,折旧已经计算在里面了。
[ 本帖最后由 klse.8k 于 21-9-2006 02:08 PM 编辑 ] |
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发表于 21-9-2006 04:13 PM
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GOH TIAN CHUAN是何许人?
http://chinese.cari.com.my/myfor ... &extra=page%3D3
我电邮Macy小姐以询问那谣言(AIC主要股东GOH TIAN CHUAN从公开市场积累Megan shares,并且會向Megan现有股东 DATO DR HJ MOHD ADAM BIN CHE HARUN买下他的股份), 如果有她的任何回复, 我将告诉大家. 我查寻GOH TIAN CHUAN的背景,如下所述:
Goh Tian Chuan
Repco Holdings Berhad (1995-2004)
Born on 1961, a Malaysian and graduated from the Police College in Kuala Kubu Baru, Selangor. He was a Senior Police Officer attached to the Police Headquarters, Kepayan, Kota Kinabalu from 1981 to 1994. He started his own business after leaving the police force in 1994. Mr Goh joined Everise Ventures Sdn. Bhd. and a number of other subsidiaries of Repco Holdings Berhad on 3 October 1995. He had been given responsibility over the gaming and timber business of the Repco Group since October 1995 and hold the title of Head of Operations for the gaming and timber divisions of the Repco Group in 2002. In year 2002, Mr Goh did not hold any directorship in other public listed companies nor did he have any shareholding in Repco or any of its subsidiaries. He was appointed as a Non-Executive Non-Independent Director of Repco Holdings Berhad on 26 September 2000 (on 8 April 1999, Special Administrators were appointed by Pengurusan Danaharta Nasional Berhad over Repco Holdings Berhad and seven of its subsidiaries). He resigned on 27 August 2004.
Cepatwawasan Group Bhd (2004-2005)
Goh Tian Chuan was appointed as Non-Independent and Non-Executive Director of Cepatwawasan Group Bhd on 8 November 2004. On 8 April 2005, he was re-designated as Chief Executive Officer of the Company and he is redesignated as Chairman of the company on 25 July 2005. He was also a substantial shareholder of Cepatwawasan.
On 27 Oct 2005, Goh Tian Chuan disposed of 14.87 million Cepatwawasan shares, which is equal to a 6.9% stake in the company. He ceases to be a substantial shareholder in Cepatwawasan after this disposal. On the same day, Datuk Mah King Seng acquired an indirect interest in 69 million shares of Cepatwawasan Group Bhd on Oct 27. These shares represent a 32% stake in the company.
AIC Corporation Bhd (2006)
Goh Tian Chuan was appointed as Executive Director of AIC Corporation Bhd
on 15 June 2006. He currently (record dated 15 June 2006) sits on the board of Jotech Holdings Bhd and Nucleus Electronics Ltd (Singapore).
AIC had come under the control of Goh Tian Chuan and Kenneth Vun in June 2006. Goh Tian Chuan and Kenneth Vun (the latter better known as a major shareholder of Mesdaq-listed FTEC), had indicated they were going to restructure the AIC group via disposals, mergers and acquisitions. Goh and Vun each own around 11% of AIC. They are believed to have bought the stakes from Datuk Sarip Hamid and Mohamed Ariff Puteh, the former owners of AIC.
AIC Corp Bhd sold its 30% stake in Jotech Holdings Bhd in September 2006, to raise funds to retire its (AIC's) borrowings. Another source indicates that AIC could also be looking at disposing its interest in Singapore-listed Nucleus Electronics Ltd, in which it has a 31% stake.
Goh Tian Chuan received Panglima Gemilang Darjah Kinabalu (PGDK) (with title "Datuk") from Yang DiPertua Negeri Sabah on 16 Sept 2006. |
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发表于 21-9-2006 08:41 PM
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有时候一些公司无任何需要去核对,核算,检查,批改,栓查,校对。因为浪费时光。
投资 klse 最重要是赢得财富, 金钱。
"GENTING" . There was a sharp drop yesterday ie RM23.10.If you dare to buy, then T + 2 get out. I bought 10K shares at RM23.10, waiting to sell next monday.
Just a reminder to all of you, most of KLSE stocks = don't touch = don't hold.
Believe me, it's your hard earn money. 95% of retailers lost money in KLSE.
i really pity them.
i don't simply buy, but if there is a oppurtunity to buy, i will sapu. |
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发表于 21-9-2006 10:39 PM
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原帖由 alang 于 21-9-2006 08:41 PM 发表
有时候一些公司无任何需要去核对,核算,检查,批改,栓查,校对。因为浪费时光。
投资 klse 最重要是赢得财富, 金钱。
一間公司的股票會上,一就是這間公司有值錢的資產,二就是抄家看中它,那不管是好是壞,重要就是這家公司的老板不要過問股票的成交,那就是沒問題了,不要像前幾天有一間上市公司去和股票所報告,講它的公司的股票有人賣空,抄家最怕的就是這般的公司,所以不管公司有多少不利新聞,只要老板會做人,自然有人會幫它的公司的股票抄上升,之後會上到那里,沒人知。
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发表于 22-9-2006 03:56 PM
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原帖由 klse.8k 于 21-9-2006 02:02 PM 发表
根据megan2006年的报告书第45页,operating profit is arrived after charging depreciation RM 121,465,000 。
所以,在计算Operating profit 的时候,折旧已经计算在里面了。
根据 MEGAN06 的 INCOME STATEMENT,GROSS PROFIT 是 RM149,242,000。单减去 DEPRECIATION RM 121,465,000 都只剩 RM 27,777,000 了。
就算如报告书第45页所说,Operating profit is arrived at after crediting: 总数 RM 13,441,000,再and after charging:总数 RM 134,175,000,最后所得的OPERATING PROFIT 也应是
149,242K (GROSS PROFIT) + 13,441K - 134,175K = RM 28,508,000。
这么会是报告书第14页所说的 OPERATING PROFIT = RM 128,234,000呢? |
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发表于 22-9-2006 06:51 PM
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7101 MEGAN MEGAN MEDIA HOLDINGS BHD
Changes in Director's Interest (S135)
Particulars of Director 37
Name : Alice Kuek Ai-Lee
NRIC/Passport No./Company No. :
Nationality/Country of Incorporation :
Address:
5 Newton Road, #05-02 Elmira Heights, Singapore, 307944
Descriptions (Class and Nominal Value):
Ordinary Shares
Details of Changes
Date of Notice : 22/09/2006
Transactions:
No. Date Transaction Type No of Shares Price (RM)
1. 29/08/2006 Others 100,000 -
Circumstances by reason of which change has occurred:
Nature of Interest:
Direct
Consideration:
No of Shares Held After Changes:
Direct : 100,000 shares (0.0500%)
Indirect/Deemed Interest : 0 shares (0.0000%)
Total : 100,000 shares
Remarks:
N/A
Submitted By:
WONG AI LENG
22/09/2006 06:11 PM |
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原帖由 alang 于 21-9-2006 08:41 PM 发表
有时候一些公司无任何需要去核对,核算,检查,批改,栓查,校对。因为浪费时光。
投资 klse 最重要是赢得财富, 金钱。
"GENTING" . There was a sharp drop yesterday ie RM23.10.If you dare ...
where is another 5%retailer who gained money from klse? |
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假如depreciation 散布在cost 的各处(或operating profit之前),就不会看见disclosure.
报告书第45页所说,不是完整性的写法。 |
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原帖由 findcari 于 22-9-2006 11:42 PM 发表
假如depreciation 散布在cost 的各处(或operating profit之前),就不会看见disclosure.
报告书第45页所说,不是完整性的写法。
那么说不是很难真正的了解整间公司的财务庄款?? |
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原帖由 kennypin 于 22-9-2006 03:56 PM 发表
根据 MEGAN06 的 INCOME STATEMENT,GROSS PROFIT 是 RM149,242,000。单减去 DEPRECIATION RM 121,465,000 都只剩 RM 27,777,000 了。
就算如报告书第45页所说,Operating profit is arrived at aft ...
应该是这样的。。。
30/04/2006
RM'000
Revenue 1,034,797
Cost of sale (764,060)
Depreciation (121,465)
Gross operating profit 149,272
Other operating income 13,023
Distribution cost (5,854)
Administration expenses (13,519)
Other operating expenses (14,688)
Operating profit 128,234
Interest Income 426
Financing Costs (46,077)
Share of profit of associates 4,209
Profit Before Tax 86,792
Taxation (26,558)
Profit After Tax 60,234
[ 本帖最后由 klse.8k 于 23-9-2006 10:11 PM 编辑 ] |
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发表于 25-9-2006 12:32 AM
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请问哪里有download Megan的Annual Report? thx. |
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原帖由 findcari 于 22-9-2006 11:42 PM 发表
假如depreciation 散布在cost 的各处(或operating profit之前),就不会看见disclosure.
报告书第45页所说,不是完整性的写法。
报告书第29页已经解释depreciation RM121465K的分类. |
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回复网友的信。。。
回复网友的信。。。
原文:
致 klse.8k
可能你是说的对,我还停留在理论上。我是很想学你的“大牛开番论”的方法。但我希望可以改成适合自己的性格和和对它有信心的方法-我自己的大牛开番论。
前辈也说过,如果决得你的方法不适合,就去寻找自己对它很有信心的投资方法。
其实我觉得自己很奇怪,我不会去关心我的投资,我不会向你这样研究再研究。我的投资额大概是10千零吉。每当我有闲钱时,我就研究和做一些基本的计算,就把钱投进去了。之后就只是看有什么新闻或新的公布。我最注重的只是每年4次的季度报告。我的心情就会跟着这些季度报告走,业绩好我会很开心就算股价没有上升,但业绩坏的时候我就很担心,会不会是自己选错股了。
我不知是不是我的投资额太少了,才引不起我的担心和关注。如果我的投资额是100千的话,可能情况就不一样了。(这10千也已经是我一半的身家了,辛辛苦苦的储蓄钱)
无论如何,还是谢谢你一路来的指导。
XXXXX
回复:
条条大路通罗马。。。
但是,不是每个人都能到达罗马的。
每个人都有自己的投资方法。。。
但是,不是每个方法都是有效的。
每个人都有自己的性格。。。
但是,不是每个性格都可以令人致富的。
理论要经过实践才有价值,同样的一个理论,不一样的人运用,得到的结果还是不同的。
选股只是一个开始,“买进”只是一个决定,怎样“卖出”?几时“卖出”?这又是另一个学问。
因为“我的功课”,所以你知道我是怎样的选股。。。
但是,这只是一个开始,将来我是怎样卖?几时卖?这才是关键的所在。
你如果真的要跟我一起研究股票,至少你得有一些跟我一样的股,这样你才能领会到我的投资方法。
(这就是我一直强调的:想要学会游泳,我们必须进入水中,在岸上是永远也学不会的)
你可以不喜欢Megan,但是,如果你想领会我的投资方法,你就必须拥有它,这样你才能够体会,经过真正的体会,你就能够突破理论进入实践,这就是关键的所在,我一直强调实战就是这个理由。
(所以我一再的重复:不管你的理论有多好,进入实战你就会明白,原来它不是这么的一回事)
如果我们打不同的战,你又如何能够了解我的战争呢?
(实战才能够体会,旁观是没有感觉的)
你可以改良我的战法,我也一直努力的改良我的战法,但是,你必须先了解它,这样你才可以青出于蓝胜于蓝。
祝,投资愉快。 |
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原帖由 klse.8k 于 23-9-2006 10:05 PM 发表
应该是这样的。。。
30/04/2006
RM'000
Revenue 1,034,797
Cost of sale (764,060)
Depreciation (121,465)
Gross operating profit 149,272
Other operating income 13,023
Di ...
多谢解答!
我忘了 MEGAN 的 DEPRECIATION 是 DIRECT MANUFACTURING COST 的一部分,应加在 Cost of GOod sold 里地。
谢谢提醒。。。 |
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除了 COMSA 还 有 哪 些 作 假 帐 或 被 怀 疑 作 假 帐 的 公 司 . |
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