a quest for malaysian architecture

vmt

这是我一个朋友写的blog，觉得马来西亚的建筑师不应该只是设计一些一模一样的apartment。虽然要改变不是一朝一夕的事情，但是凡事总是要有第一次。所以我觉得应该拿来这里跟大家分享一下。觉得不错的话就把一个连接放在你们的网站或者部落格里面！
yangsquare.com

ok, I’m fed up with these complains. I’m sure you have heard them sometimes;

    * architecture in malaysia is different from overseas, here architects are just cad monkeys. they just follow whatever the client wants.
    * over here architects have low salaries than those overseas. imagine a fresh graduate with only rm1600 starting pay..while outside you have lots more
    * in university you’re taught how to emphasize on design, but in architectural workplace you’re just creating functionalistic buildings
    * malaysian architecture restricts creativity with so-called law of economy. money wins, or is it?

few sad facts about malaysian architecture.

1. most malaysians do not know who is the most famous architect in malaysia. or worst, they don’t even know who the hell is frank gehry. fyi, frank gehry designed the bilbao museum that is now globally famous (yet, malaysians don’t even care about it)



guggenheim bilbao. world-famous (excluding malaysia?)

2. most recognized buildings in malaysia are designed by foreign architects. do you know that?



our great petronas towers are designed by argentine american cesar pelli



our famous klia, by japanese kisho kurokawa

3. so what is majority of malaysian architects are doing? they’re designing three of the most sad buildings in malaysia.



a) designing sad, boring shoplots. that looks the same all over malaysia. now, is that architecture or a sad building?



b) the long, depressing terrace houses that all look the same in brochures. that makes us feel more to escape from it rather to live in it. residents buys the idea to live in it, developers take all the money, and malaysian architects? just do it.



c) ok, now prison-like apartments. painted a little bit red here and there to look different, but still that you can see everywhere in urban areas of malaysia and you think to yourself: “hey it’s my friend’s condo… oh nope, it just looks like it.”

so, we all got to stop complaining about malaysian architecture and, I am going to start a quest to revolutionise malaysian architecture. so folks, start appreciating architecture, and also critise it! don’t just take it like youre still in high school.

now what you should DO;

1. if you have a chance to commision an architect (just assume youre the owner), don’t let him simply do it. demand your home/project to be a work of art, tell him it’s boring! and ask him to redesign it! remember, great artists need great clients.

2. money. tell the architect the budget earlier and keep it. don’t simply cut the budget in the halfway of the design process! it’s like when you are served the meal and you refund a part of the meal just to save money. so, look at your menu for price first then savour it completely!

3. appreciate the architecture. if you are buying a completed house, ask who is the architect. determine if he is famous or not. or better, don’t buy a complete house. ask your architect friend if there is any plot of land for you to build a home. you might even get it cheaper, without the money going to the developer’s pocket!

4. if you saw the same architect’s work outside, go like this;
you: hey, do you know that new shopping mall downtown is going to open soon?
your friend: yeah, it’s kinda cool and we going to have a new shopping mall^^
you: well, the very same architect designs my house!

so, spread the word. start a quest for malaysia! let us be proud of our modern culture. and put these nice little banner on your blog.

红够了所以低调

老实说，都没有point，是人都懂。

cjenn86

不要再为那个BLOGGER做宣传了。老实说他的文章只是写些大家都知道的东西。怎样都好啦，谢谢分享～

Atila02

我想知道这位博客是否在本地求学或工作？

sashawong

原帖由 红够了所以低调 于 27-5-2008 08:18 AM 发表
老实说，都没有point，是人都懂。

我也这样认为

van_gogh_alive

Oh..whose the unlucky products beeing posed here....Yes...it is true, most of the designers in Malaysia are doing the so-called vulgar architecture. So the graduate must have the 'skill' to do these designs and forget bout the international style(if you are fortunate). Anyhow if you think otherwise, it is not completely architect's fault. As you said, it is client request these designs. Don't you think it is society's fault? Tell you the truth, my fren will give a thumb up for the terrace image you are showing. Now, who fault it is? You cant give an apple to your client whereby he wants a orange. The taste will change, but it takes time. Your friend should join developer firm to save the design industry.

em..em...do u mind if your friend sharing his products here?

chunkha

记得曾经何时我曾对我的老板抱怨过楼主的问题。

我的老板对我说：小鬼你还小，小发展商当然只顾赚钱，尺土寸金。那位建筑师能为发展商转到最多的$$，设计费用最低，建筑成本最低，当然要便宜又好看。他们就要那位。

大发展商。。。。当你下了大投资，当然要保障，第一时间便会想到名牌。不是说本地建筑师不好，是为了要借助他们的名气等等商业利用价值。

当然我想而已（别SHOT我）马来西亚今天的建筑物设计膜样并不是完全是本地建筑师和发展商的错，所有的马来西亚居民和购买者都有责任。

每每当发展商和建筑师开始设计时都一定依照市场价值，区域价值，当地的购买能力等等元素。

打工族薪水低没有钱要求。有谁不想住在最完美的房子里。

最起码身在国外的我觉得如果有一间排屋也觉得很满意了。

aven

要看DEVELOPER舍得出钱没有。。。
你看看SP SETIA的PROJECT。。有哪个是没有IDENTITY的。。。

chunkha

aven 你是sp setia 的员工？？大公司叻。。。。。

我刚刚游完了sp setia 的网页。。。。
但是我看不到有什么IDENTITY 。。。。可以告诉我吗？
请赐教。 谢谢

aven

原帖由 chunkha 于 1-6-2008 12:53 AM 发表
aven 你是sp setia 的员工？？大公司叻。。。。。
我刚刚游完了sp setia 的网页。。。。
但是我看不到有什么IDENTITY 。。。。可以告诉我吗？
请赐教。 谢谢

有些新PROJECT还没有在WEB SITE里面。。。

我是ARCHI FIRM的。。我不喜欢SP SETIA。。。
因为它们欺压CONSULTANT。。。
给那些CONSULTANT像给乞丐酱少。。。。

Atila02

sp setia近一两年比较大型的是setia eco park，建筑师是archi centre，本身觉得是不错啊。

aven

原帖由 Atila02 于 1-6-2008 10:21 AM 发表
sp setia近一两年比较大型的是setia eco park，建筑师是archi centre，本身觉得是不错啊。

对！那些BUNGALOW是近年来最流行的CONTEMPORARY DESIGN。。。

vmt

原帖由 cjenn86 于 28-5-2008 12:24 AM 发表
不要再为那个BLOGGER做宣传了。老实说他的文章只是写些大家都知道的东西。怎样都好啦，谢谢分享～

对不起咯。。。

原帖由 Atila02 于 30-5-2008 12:41 AM 发表
我想知道这位博客是否在本地求学或工作？

本地求学，林国荣学院，1st year。

原帖由 chunkha 于 31-5-2008 11:00 PM 发表
记得曾经何时我曾对我的老板抱怨过楼主的问题。

我的老板对我说：小鬼你还小，小发展商当然只顾赚钱，尺土寸金。那位建筑师能为发展商转到最多的$$，设计费用最低，建筑成本最低，当然要便宜又好看。他们就要那位 ...

对！有同感！大家都有错！没办法，不商业化就没钱赚，没有人会做不赚钱的生意的。说到尾，建筑在大马就只是商业罢了。。。

算了。。。接下来三天还有考试。。。
真不懂为什么要念建筑需要在预科班读化学！

[ 本帖最后由 vmt 于 3-6-2008 09:46 PM 编辑 ]

红够了所以低调

原帖由 Atila02 于 1-6-2008 10:21 AM 发表
sp setia近一两年比较大型的是setia eco park，建筑师是archi centre，本身觉得是不错啊。

Eco Park 的club house 笑死人，语不惊人死不休，有需要这样做design 吗？

我看过bungalow 的show units，做contemporary有点勉强，但好在roof garden 把它的缺点掩饰。

[ 本帖最后由 红够了所以低调 于 5-6-2008 08:53 AM 编辑 ]

aven

原帖由 红够了所以低调 于 5-6-2008 08:47 AM 发表
Eco Park 的club house 笑死人，语不惊人死不休，有需要这样做design 吗？
我看过bungalow 的show units，做contemporary有点勉强，但好在roof garden 把它的缺点掩饰。

那些BUNGALOW，单单看FRONT ELEVATION。。可以接受。。。如果入到室内& ROOF GARDEN看。。可以发现更多弱点。。。
ECO PARK嘛。。。种点树草才像样嘛。。。

lyeyeepei

"great artists need great clients"
问题是，没有人珍惜艺术品
那，要如何去建像bilbao酱的东西？

Atila02

其实我们每个人都一样，都想设计出一件完美的作品，耐何建筑在本地只是一种商业，所以很多人都心有余而力不足。