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好恐怖的天价！
M国如果采购18架都要RM7.62亿 x 18 = RM137.16亿！
这跟~话说的18架RM70亿差了一大截。
另外，M国买阵风的机会很微了，因为阵风接了埃及和印度的订单在2年之内无法生产18架给M国。
MRCA: India Set To Sign For Rafales. Edited
April 11, 2015
SHAH ALAM: After three years of negotiations India looked set to sign for the Dassault Rafale. At the moment, the deal is for 36 aircraft (much lower than reported previously) and reports suggest that the deal is worth some US$7.5 billion or RM27 billion.
This translate to US$208 million or RM762 million per plane! Reuters in the meantime reported that the deal is worth US$4.5 billion (RM16.4 billion)or US$125 million per plane and RM458 million. I guess we have to wait for the actual contract signing to find out the actual price.
The 36 aircraft order is reportedly separate from the 108 plane buy which remains under negotiations.
From AFP.
Paris — Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi said on Friday he had asked France to supply his air force with 36 Rafale fighter jets, after years of wrangling over the deal.
“I asked the President (Francois Hollande) to supply us with 36 Rafale jet fighter planes, the ready-to-fly models,” Modi said at a joint news conference at the Elysee Palace.
“France has always been a reliable supplier for India from jet fighters to submarines,” said Modi.
“We want the terms and conditions to be negotiated on this issue, and our civil servants are going to debate these aspects in depth and press ahead with the negotiations,” added the Indian prime minister.
For his part, Hollande said he was “deeply moved” by the announcements and said they took the partnership between the two countries “into a new gear.”
Analysis
Will this deal have any effect on Malaysia’s own search for the MRCA? Well according to industry sources, both the Indian and Egyptian deals are actually a bad thing for Dassault when it come to Malaysia. To fulfill both orders, Dassault is not expected to be able to deliver the aircraft to other buyers especially Malaysia within the next two years. And there is also the chance that the UAE and Qatar will also signed for the Rafales.
The industry is expecting if the MRCA got the nod within the next 12 months or so, the selected manufacturer will need to deliver the aircraft within 24 months or so.
With the Indian and Egyptian deals (and UAE/Qatar too), the Rafale production line which produces around 1 aircraft a month will be hard pressed to meet the Malaysian deadline. Yes they could ramp up their production to meet the demand (to 2.5 aircraft per month) but it will be very tight especially if we only have a budget for 12 aircraft or so.
No this is not just my imagination. Reuters is reporting that “Analysts say Dassault’s Rafale deal with Egypt in February may have helped break the logjam in negotiations with other customers since they are now on notice that if they want to have the Rafale they may have to wait for it.”
As it is, only Eurofighter and Boeing are expected to be capable of meeting the 24-month deadline for RMAF as they could divert aircraft already in production for other customers unlike Dassault. Indeed if the Typhoon was selected, RMAF could be flying Tranche 1 examples within weeks of the contract signing, complete with missiles and what not, courtesy of the RAF.
The cost of the Typhoon is expected to be nearer to the Rafale compared to the Super Hornet though.
— Malaysian Defence
http://www.malaysiandefence.com/?p=6249
India to get 36 French Rafale jets for $7.5 billion
India is doubling the number of Rafale jet fighters it intends to buy from France, increasing the quantity of aircraft built in France from 18 to 36. Indian prime minister Narendra Modi and French president Francois Hollande have reached the agreement during their summit meeting today in Paris. The procurement will be part of a government-to-government (G2G) deal worth $7.5 billion, rather than the commercial sale by the manufacturer Dassault Aviation, that would have cost over $20 billion which has been dragged along for three years. This decision represents the second win for Rafale this year, following the Egyptian order for 24 aircraft that could be built within two years. Qatar and UAE have expressed interest in buying the French fighter (UAE is in for 60 jets, Qatar has a requirement for 36). Dassault is currently producing about one aircraft per month (the minimum rate designed to fulfill the deliveries for the French military by 2018). The company said it can increase production rate to 2.5 aircraft per month, which could deliver the Egyptian, Indian and remaining French orders by mid 2017. However, according to Indian defense minister Manohar Parrikar, the jets are not expected in India before the end of 2017. “Fly-away means not tomorrow, it has to be designed as per India’s need, plus there is a requirement of working out the price.” Parrikar said.
Higher Cost, Faster Delivery
The original deal was for 126 fighter aircraft under the Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) contest. Dassault Aviation Rafale was shortlisted in 2012 after rigorous evaluation but negotiations have been stuck over pricing and delivery guarantees for the aircraft manufactured by Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL) in India. Dassault’s bid price was 10 billion, but the program cost soon escalated to over $20 billion, due to the investments of technology transfer and infrastructure involved with life-cycle support cost. However, while average cost per aircraft would cost $158 million under the original plan, the current buy represents per aircraft cost of 208 million.
http://defense-update.com/20150410_indian_rafales.html#.VSqWYeaUcfg
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